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Match 120'/40 Elite V6 - Saitek Sparc
Liebe Schachfreunde
In seinem abschliessenden Match der Serie muss der Fidelity Elite Avantgarde 2325 V6 (Elo 2107) zu reinen Vergleichszwecken gegen das Nachfolgeprogramm von Dan & Kathe Spracklen, den Saitek Sparc (Elo 2254) antreten. Bei einer Elo-Differenz von 147 Punkten ist ein Sieg von 6:14 für den Saitek Spark zu erwarten. Wir sind gespannt, ob das letzte Programm der amerikanischen Programmierer seine Erwartungen erfüllen kann/wird. Unten dann noch die Links der bisherigen 22 kommentierten und publizierten Matches. Viele Grüsse Kurt 01) Mephisto Explorer Pro - MM V+HG550; 10,5:9,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...5&postcount=46 02) Mephisto Explorer Pro - Excel 68000 Mach III; 12:8 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...1&postcount=67 03) Sphinx 40 most aggressive - Excellence; 9,5:10,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...4&postcount=43 04) Sphinx 40 most aggressive - Mephisto MM II; 13:7 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...4&postcount=52 05) Sphinx 40 most aggressive - Super Constellation; 11,5:8,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...1&postcount=72 06) Sphinx 40 most aggressive - Super Crown 4 MHz; 8,5:1,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...5&postcount=26 07) Saitek RISC 2500 aktiv - Mephisto Vancouver 32bit; 10,5:9,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...5&postcount=47 08) Excel Mach III - MM V+HG550; 10:10 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...3&postcount=41 09) Excellence 6 MHz - Yeno 532 XL; 10:10 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...0&postcount=39 10) Super Constellation 18 MHz - Excellence 3 MHz; 14:6 (unter MES) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...23&postcount=1 11) Mephisto Genius V4.01 68030 - Elite Avantgarde V11 68040; 27,5:12,5 (Nunn-Test 2 unter MES) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...5&postcount=88 12) Mephisto Academy - Super Constellation 18 MHz; 8:2 (unter MES) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...6&postcount=24 13) Saitek D+ EGR 8 MHz - Mephisto Explorer Pro; 10,5:9,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...0&postcount=72 14) Saitek D+ EGR 8 MHz - Fidelity Excel 68000 Mach III; 10:10 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...6&postcount=77 15) Saitek D+ EGR 8 MHz - Mephisto MM V HG550; 15,5:14,5 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...5&postcount=88 16) Fidelity Elite V6 - Mephisto Explorer Pro; 13,5:6,5 (+11 -4 =5) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...8&postcount=73 17) Fidelity Elite Avant Garde 2325 V6 - Mephisto Almeria 68000; 13,5:6,5 (+11 -3 =5) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...9&postcount=61 18) Fidelity Elite V6 - Mephisto Almeria 68020; 13:7 (+11 -5 =4) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...ead.php?t=5616 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...8&postcount=78 19) Fidelity Elite V6 - Mephisto Portorose 68020; 9:11 (+7 -5 =8) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...ead.php?t=5639 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...ead.php?t=5639 20) Fidelity Elite V6 - Mephisto Lyon 68020; 10:10 (+5 -5 =10) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...2&postcount=63 21) Fidelity Elite V6 - Mephisto Vancouver 68020; 7,5:12,5 (+4 -9 =7) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...0&postcount=71 22) Fidelity Elite V6 - Saitek RISC 2500 aktiv; 8,5:11,5 (+5 -8 =7) https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...42&postcount=1 https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...9&postcount=65 Geändert von applechess (15.07.2018 um 12:03 Uhr) Grund: typo |
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AW: Match 120'/40 Elite V6 - Saitek Sparc
hello Kurt and hello to all chess computer enthusiasts!
Congratulations for this amazing site! can you explain me what it is the difference of power between the processor 68020 with 20 MHz and the Sparc with 20 mhz? what would be equivalence? 68030/33 MHz? 40 MHz? 50 MHz? thank you for your answers. excuse me if I do not write in German! good day to all! Oliver |
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AW: Match 120'/40 Elite V6 - Saitek Sparc
hello Kurt and hello to all chess computer enthusiasts!
Congratulations for this amazing site! can you explain me what it is the difference of power between the processor 68020 with 20 MHz and the Sparc with 20 mhz? what would be equivalence? 68030/33 MHz? 40 MHz? 50 MHz? thank you for your answers. excuse me if I do not write in German! good day to all! Oliver Welcome in this fantastic forum. Unfortunately, I know almost nothing about hardware. But there will surely be a guy here being able to answer your question. Kind regards Kurt |
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AW: Match 120'/40 Elite V6 - Saitek Sparc
Hallo Kurt,
überraschend einfach hat der Elite v6 in dieser Partie die Qualität her geschenkt. Ich tippe in diesem Wettkampf auf ein 13:7 für den Saitek Sparc. Gruß Egbert Geändert von Egbert (14.07.2018 um 16:07 Uhr) Grund: Korrektur |
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it is always very difficult to compare processors with different structures. Somewhere I had once read that the Sparc has about 20 MIPS at 20 MHz. I think the Sparc with 20 MHz is comparable to the Motorola 68030 66 MHz. salute Egbert |
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AW: Match 120'/40 Elite V6 - Saitek Sparc
Hi Guys,
here are some informations about the question: Posting from "Mapi" (Markus Pillen): https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...6&postcount=12
and this: https://www.schachcomputer.info/foru...61&postcount=8 Code:
H8/2312/ 25 MHz - 12 MIPS (Star Diamond) 68020 / 20 MHz - 4 (Mach IV) 68030 / 33 MHz - 11.9 (London 68030) 68060 / 72 MHz - 110 (Fidelity V11) SH7034 / 20 MHz - 20 (Magellan) SPARC / 20 MHz - 7 (Saitek Sparc) Best regards Micha |
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Hello everyone,
thank you Micha for the info. I had already seen the quoted forum post, but with the Sparc processor with "only" 7 MIPS something doesn't seem to be quite right to me. At the end of 1992/beginning of 1993 there was the Intel processor 80486 with 25/33 MHz. In the issue 1/February-March 1993 of the magazine Computerschach & Spiele the following can be read on page 11 (topic: Computer Chess World Championship in Madrid): "...In addition, Kasparov Sparc, a development of Dan and Kathe Spracklen, made his debut. The actual computing unit was housed in a Renaissance module. The super-fast (50 MHz) SPARC hardware (about four times as powerful as a 486) needed a small fan..." Now the commercial Saitek SPARC "only" ran at 20 MHz, nevertheless the specified 7 MIPS should be a much too low value, especially in comparison with an Intel 486 with 25 or 33 MHz. So, but now I don't want to torpedo this thread from Kurt further with hardware comparisons and look forward to the highly interesting match. salute Egbert |
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Thanks a lot for your answers!
Yes, it is difficult to compare the 68020 with the Sparc. This match is very interresting between these two programs Spracklen! Egbert rightly, let's follow the parts with the excellent comments! For me, I guess a victory for the sparc 13 to 7. Best regards! |
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And here a list presented by my chessfriend Rolf Bühler:
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ProzessorHardware Taktfrequenz Chesss Mips Quelle 8088 9,5 0,5 Modul 391 6301 8 0,5 Modul 391 286 8 1 Modul 391 6301 16 1 Modul 391 6502 5 1,6 Modul 391 286 1 Waitstates 16 2,3 Modul 391 68000 12 2,3 Modul 391 286 0 Waitstates 16 2,7 Modul 391 68000 16 2,7 Modul 391 386 1 Waitstates 16 3,2 Modul 391 68020 12 3,2 Modul 391 6502 10 3,2 Modul 391 386 0 Waitstates 16 3,8 Modul 391 68020 14 3,8 Modul 391 68030 12 3,8 Modul 391 286 0Waitstates 33 5,6 Modul 391 68000 33 5,6 Modul 391 68020 20 5,6 Modul 391 386 0Waitstates 25 6 Modul 391 68030 20 6 Modul 391 6502 20 6 Modul 391 386 0 Waitstates 33 7,5 Modul 391 486 0 Waitstates 16 7,5 Modul 391 68030 25 7,5 Modul 391 68040 16 10 Modul 391 486 0 Waitstates 20 10 Modul 391 68020 36 10 Modul 391 68030 32 10 Modul 391 486 0 Waitstates 25 11,4 Modul 391 68030 36 11,4 Modul 391 H8 2312 25 12 Schachcomputer.info 486 0 Waitstates 33 15,5 Modul 391 68030 50 15,5 Modul 391 68040 25 15,5 Modul 391 Sparc 20 20 Schachcomputer.info SH 7034 20 20 Schachcomputer.info 68030 66 20,9 Schachcomputer.info 486 0 Waitstates 50 22,5 Modul 391 68040 36 22,5 Modul 391 86C010 ARM2 16 22,5 Modul 391 68060 72 100 Kurt |
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